Any J frame shooting tips?

When I first started to practice with a Snub I aimed accross the room at a doorknob. (Empty Gun) I then dry fired concentrating on the front sight staying centered on the boorknob. This helped me learn trigger control and to keep my sights on target. I was also told to follow through and not realeas the trigger or move the sight until after the shot.
 
The 442 is awesome. Snap Caps and range time when you can get there will help. An all steel J for practice really helps too. Enjoy.
 
Get a set of 20.00 Ergo rubber grips. They look weird but they make a jframe a lot easier to shoot. They were the last set of grip that I bought for my jframe.
 

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My first question is why are you figuring on shooting anything more than 5 yards away with a small snub ? I carry a S&W 640 in a small pocket holster loaded with 5 Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel +P rounds. It is not meant to get into a prolonged gunfight. Since I may have to go to court to defend my decision to shoot someone, ideally I want gun powder on the bad guy's shirt, meaning he would have been extremely close to me when I shot him in self defense.
 
Tried the crossover thumb grip which solved the cylinder release bite...but still suck wind shooting. Will order some new grips and march onward. All 638 shots were SA....DA aren't even on target.
The FIRM grip also helped....thanks for the tips!

How far out were those targets?
 
When I first started to practice with a Snub I aimed accross the room at a doorknob. (Empty Gun) I then dry fired concentrating on the front sight staying centered on the boorknob. This helped me learn trigger control and to keep my sights on target. I was also told to follow through and not realeas the trigger or move the sight until after the shot.

That's exactly what I did. I used Laser grips to help me watch.

I also recommend a good trigger job to lower the Heavy stock pull from around 14 pounds down to about 8 and smoothing it out a lot. I used Jerrys Video and did my trigger job and dry fired a thousand times or so.

Now a question for you folks, how do you keep the trigger guard from banging the snot out of your Strong hand middle finger? That's what kills me.
 
Forget the +P stuff. Stick with the Remington 130gr FMJ load until you are more proficient.
 
Is the problem accuracy or precision?

I.e., are the shots grouping in one area, just not near the point of aim, or are they splattered all around the target?

How are you pulling trigger? One long pull, or are you stacking it to simulate single action pull?
 
When instructing new officers on the range, I drill into them to "Watch the front sight". Your eyes con only focus on one object at a time, so concentrate on the front sight. Where it goes, so goes the bullet, regardless of what you are shooting.
 
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J Frame target shooting

I pretty much stink at shooting my 442. Through two range trips, I've put 120 rounds through it. I guess you can say at around 5 yards I can hit center mass, but only if you count anywhere from the shoulders to the lower abdomen and anywhere in between. Usually high and low.

After my first trip, I realized it may have something to do with hand placement. I was using a auto pistol style grip last time. Today, I tried what I saw demonstrated here with Jerry Miculek:
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About 3/4 down the page, he shows his grip on a 642. I tried this today but got some buzz stinging on the top thumb. I'm a righty, so it was my left thumb getting zinged. Tried stabilizing with my left index on the front of the trigger guard, but that wasn't comfortable either. Regardless of what I tried, I was still off from where I was aiming.

Really, I should start shooting this gun at 3 yards before even trying at 5 yards again.

nanney1:
First, you should decide whether you want to shoot in Bullseye, or bench rest competition. Then you might want to try a shoulder stock, or a Ransom rest, combined with a good quality, 20X fixed power, Target Scope, mounted, in a suitable mount. Try using factory loaded Bullseye quality, Wadcutter Amunition, at distance of, no further than 10 yards, with no cross winds. This all should be proceeded by lots of trigger finger control practice. If followed closely, this should point out the target shooting qualities of your S&W J frame revolver nicely.
 
I've been shooting J's forever. I didnt read every thread response so forgive me it I'm repeating what someone else may have said. But here it is : Have an action job done by a pro your goal is smooth.
Geta laser grip and some snap caps.
When you can dry fire that revolver keeping the laser on target repeatedly. You will be able to shoot small groups. Its all about sight allingment and trigger control. Perfect practice makes perfect. Work hard and good luck.
 
If all of this is for naught, have someone else shoot the gun. If they do well, it's you. If not, it might be the gun. Every maker puts out lemons and S&W is no exception. I once had a gorgeous 3 1/2" Model 27 that
I finally parted with after finding it to be to most inaccurate revolver I've ever shot.
 
Now a question for you folks, how do you keep the trigger guard from banging the snot out of your Strong hand middle finger? That's what kills me.[/QUOTE]

Hogue Monogrips eliminate the gap where your strong hand middle finger would otherwise be. Hence no opportunity for it to be banged. Delta grips likewise.
 
Maybe I'm doing it wrong but my way of getting better at shooting my 642 is by setting up a a IDPA cardboard target at our outdoor range and standing more or less 5 yards away and drawing from my carry holster (Bianchi lightnin' 55 OWB) and double tapping into the A zone. reholster, and drawing again, double tapping it. About 100-150 rounds a week.

IMHO, If you don't have Callus's on your upper middle finger and the top of your thumb of your shooting hand then you're not shooting enough.
 
I didn't read the whole thread, but everything you need to know is here. I'm going to try to restate the top tips succinctly.

OP, you don't state in your post how much experience you have with DA shooting, but learning that skill is the first step and is critical. Dry fire is absolutely the key, and if you don't shoot DA well already, is probably 95% of your problem.

When I first started to practice with a Snub I aimed accross the room at a doorknob. (Empty Gun) I then dry fired concentrating on the front sight staying centered on the boorknob. This helped me learn trigger control and to keep my sights on target. I was also told to follow through and not realeas the trigger or move the sight until after the shot.

Exactly this. Dry fire is good for your hand strength and experimenting while closely watching the front sight can help you find a more stable grip. It's also good for the gun and helps smooth out trigger surfaces and reduce friction.

Grip the gun tightly with your right hand, but not so tight your trigger finger is can't move freely. Use the left hand to squeeze the **** out of it (I use the Miculek thumb over grip, myself, but find what works for you). Get your right hand as high up on the grip as you can. If you do this correctly, the barrel of the gun will barely move as you dry fire the trigger. Start with a very, very slow trigger stroke, then work up your speed gradually.

The grip's backstrap should rest on the meat between your thumb and forefinger, not on the bone at the base of your thumb. To achieve this you have to twist your hand a bit, and it's likely different from what you are used to. It takes practice to get used to it.

It's still gonna hurt, but once you get better the bullets will hit the target at least.
 

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