Armed Customer Halts Violent Attack in Party Store - Would You Intervene?

[Kodiakco]

It's not an excuse, it's reality.
1. Being married, my wife comes first. I have to be alive/not in jail/not in the hospital to take care of her.
2. My parents are in their 80's and I care for them when needed.
3. I have a ccw for 1 & 2 and myself.

Within my limits I will help others. I will not risk death/great bodily harm for a stranger. I'm more than happy to be a good witness. I won't necessarily intervene if I don't believe I have the advantage.

Would I want my loved one to go thru this? Not at all.
Would I BLAME someone for not intervening? Nope, not in the least.

I see the following as an analogy. Men were working in a confined space. While in the confined space one man falls out unconscious and dies. His friend goes in to rescue him and falls out unconscious and dies. A total of three men died that day. Lack of proper procedure, tunnel vision and a blind sense of duty to their friends helped to cause two unnecessary deaths. Instead of one widow and fatherless children there are now three.
Whether internally (heart/conscious) or externally we all will answer for our actions. I'm not going to sit here and say I will help, when I won't, regardless of what any internet commando thinks or says about me. I'm selfish, I value my families life and my life over a strangers. I wrote a check (my life) to this country a long time ago that no one choose to cash. I now use those funds for my family.

I post the following as food for thought.
The Thinking Gunfighter: The Issue of Intervention

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[Muss Muggins]

Not too long ago, a guy ran over some people at Ohio State, then started trying to kill people with a knife.

How do you be "aware of" and "avoid" THAT?

If you hear/see a car driving toward you or your group, step left . . .

 

[Wise_A]

^^ I did indeed chuckle heartily.

I suppose I could also be worried about someone flying a plane into the building I'm in. Or necrotizing fasciitis. Or a case of mistaken identity by way of a mob hitman.

Mostly I just keep an eye out for loony toons. It's worked well thus far.

 

[keith44spl]

Not all fisticuffs are domestic in nature.......Sometimes it's just a brawl.

But, once upon a time,
I was stuck in traffic on a busy highway in FL not too long ago, a young man and woman in the lit'l sedan in front of me where obviously having a rather heated argument. At the next red light, he back-hands her in the mouth, she in turn grabs him by a handful of his long locks and way-lays him with a flurry of right-crosses....

Light turns green, I toot my truck horn and we all travel down the road to the next red light. Repeat, he back-hands her and she grabs another hand full of his hair, pulls him in close and deliveries another round of lightin' bantam weight punches. Light changes to green, blow truck horn and we all are rolling again.

Well, I decide it's time for me to intervene, I get the chance to pull up in the left lane beside the lovin couple and roll my passenger window down and yell at the young man driving, "Take that **** off'n the road before she knocks your *** out!" At that, they turn right into a parking lot and continue their mating ritual....


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[cmort666]

If you hear/see a car driving toward you or your group, step left . . .

How come the people in France and Germany didn't do that?

Why didn't the people at Ohio State?

Do you have some way of predicting which car... or semi is going to veer onto the sidewalk where you are?

If I avoided all cars driving close to me, I'd have to live in a hollow in the Metroparks... or in the middle of Rocky River... the body of water, not the town.

 

[cmort666]

Not all fisticuffs are domestic in nature.......Sometimes it's just a brawl.

I was once driving west on Lorain Rd. near West Blvd. in Cleveland when I saw one guy cold cock another guy and leave him lying in the street.

A block or two away, I saw a couple of Cleveland cops parked on the street. I stopped and informed them of what I'd just seen. They made it VERY clear that they were neither interested nor concerned and that I was wasting their time.

Some times they don't want you to be a "good witness". That was the end of my reporting things that don't directly involve me to the Cleveland PD.

 

[Muss Muggins]

How come the people in France and Germany didn't do that?

Why didn't the people at Ohio State?

Despite the hype, common sense isn't all that common . . .

(Edit: Millions of people do it every day. When they don't, it makes the national news)

 

[cmort666]

Despite the hype, common sense isn't all that common . . .

(Edit: Millions of people do it every day. When they don't, it makes the national news)

Are you saying that NONE of the victims had "common sense"?

How about the British bandsman Lee Rigby who was run over and beheaded? Did he also lack "common sense"?

If someone is able to run you over from behind, is that also a sign that you lack "common sense"?

 

[Kodiakco]

Do you not recognize sarcasm?

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[Moe Mentum]

Not me, my luck, they would be anti gun liberals, and sue me. My gun is for MY protection, i'll call 911 and be gone.

 

[HJBM&P22Custom]

I would only intervene to the level that I would if I was unarmed. I'm not going to pull out a gun. Only if I thought myself or my family were in danger for their lives am I going to use my concealed weapon.