m&p Failure's

[agksimon]

I've bought and sold more carry guns than I can count, as I found something about them I didn't like. My M&P9c is finally the end of the line, as I can't find anything about it I don't like. It's easy to work on and improve upon too. I did a Burwell trigger job and installed a Dawson FO front sight. Excellent for carry and IDPA shoots.

 

[ronmanci]

I've bought and sold more carry guns than I can count, as I found something about them I didn't like. My M&P9c is finally the end of the line, as I can't find anything about it I don't like. It's easy to work on and improve upon too. I did a Burwell trigger job and installed a Dawson FO front sight. Excellent for carry and IDPA shoots.

I put a CT Grip and a S&W micro 90 light on my new one.

Having trouble finding a nice holster that works with the light. I don't like the bladetech stuff.

 

[MotorCityGun]

I put a CT Grip and a S&W micro 90 light on my new one.

Having trouble finding a nice holster that works with the light. I don't like the bladetech stuff.

If you prefer kydex type rigs, I recommend you check out Personal Security Systems. Personal Security Systems Kydex Holsters

My 40c, equipped with CTC grips works great in it.

 

[W.E.G.]

Is this dealer even a Smith and Wesson dealer?

I'm pretty sure the official dealers don't get to decide to not carry certain models. They either carry the models the distributor delivers, or they don't get any guns from the distributor.

 

[handgunner356]

I would like to know exactly how many M&PS' have been made, and just how many have been returned for service. We use M&Ps' in our CCW classes with a lot of new shooters and haven't seen any problems. One early 40 that a friend had bought did require a new striker, slight change in the sear pad on them. His would give a light strike every now and then on reloads, the new one hit with more energy. Our state patrol went with them and several other local agencys, I've yet to hear of any problems with them. To each there own but I find it hard not to recomend the M&P series to anyone looking for new gun.

 

[silvercn]

I carry the S&W M&P 9 FS for work. (no failures, actually my favorite gun)
It out shoots and out preforms the glock... but back to opinions...
Off duty I carry the S&W 45 Compact or my BERSA Thunder 9.

Smith and Wesson.. is a great gun...
I have words for that gunshop owner... but I am not about to stoop to his level.

Check it out...
dont limp wrist the gun.. and keep the extractor clean,
also dont over lube this gun... rails, barrel, and the arm of the trigger... look it up and follow it.
and you won't have any issues with this gun....
If you do.. S&W will take care of you and get you back on track.

good luck.........(ignore the tuff guy in the gun shop!)

 

[postban]

I have had one ammo related failure in my two M&P9s. My 9c jammed on a split case in the first 50 rds. Had to poke it out with a BIC pen. Resumed shooting with no issues.



My 9 has been flawless with factory and reloads. The 9c has been flawless since.



This is the only round of wolf 9mm to fail on me in all the years I have been using it. I have used it in Sig 226, Beretta 92, KelTec P11, Sub2000, Glock19, WaltherPPS, Uzi Mobel-b, 9mm AR15 and more.

 

[Just Shoot]

"Just plain wore out" after three years and 20,000 rounds? That's really not a lot... What do you mean by wore out?

I agree with you...thats only a little over 500 rounds a month...I hope mine does better....

 

[Lost Lake]

My Cadillac dealer says Lexus is a terrible car. In fact he doesn't even sell them! Says he has seen a lot of trouble with Lexus though.

Sound familiar? Salesmen sell what they have in stock. They downplay what they don't sell.

Same goes with advisors.... I had a kid tell me he would take care of my investing and set me up with an excellent plan!

I asked if he was a millionaire or multi-millionaire. Of course he was neither, probably living at home with his parents yet. I told him I don't take advice from people with less experience than I have. And I never take opinions from a commissioned salesman.

 

[Chris A.]

Yet another reliable experience with 9mm FS. About 1000 rounds without a glitch.

 

[mlk18]

Went into my LGS back in 1989 to look at a Glock 17. Dealer said they were totally **** and almost guaranteed to blow up in your hand. Two years later they were advertising them, had them well stocked and were recommending them in their training courses. I asked the same guy about their change of heart, he just played stupid. Businesses are centered around marketing and profit (period). Recommendations should only come from people who are legitimately in the know, like your fellow S&W Forum members!

 

[Eagle1*]

So like the title says.................. let's talk about M&P failure's. Particularly the M&P pistols! This stiory begins with me going to the local gun dealer who, surpiise surprise doesn't own one. Well he also runs a CCW class here in OHIO where I live. And oh yea, might I add he doesn't sell them either. But anyway I was in his shop browsing the other night and mentioned that I wanted the M&P40c to CCW. Well he starts to explaing to me that he has seen Alot! of M&P's fail during his classes and how they're made like ****. I just don't see how that's possible when it is being issued to my Cincinnati police department!

Jknox, which store were you in? I live in Ohio close to Cincy and I have never had a dealer tell me that. I am a police officer too and know a bunch that love their M&P's.

 

[Eagle1*]

The original post reaks of BS.
A gun shop owner with an opinion like this on the M&P is either stupid or fictional.

I totally agree, if he is a dealer then he is there to make money. Why would I not try and sell a customer what ever he wanted (or prefered) to make a little change in the process!

 

[Wee Hooker]

Let me guess, he wanted to sell you a Glock ;-)

 

[SWMod10]

Pistol Training.com had a M&P9 go 62,333 rounds beginning on 22-Apr-08 and ending on 5-Dec-08, a total of 228 days, or 273.4 rounds per day.

Read about it here-

pistol-training.com Blog Archive M&P Endurance Test Ends

Your dealer is full of it. He should be selling used cars, not guns.

 

[remat457]

Let's not forget that the pistols have been constantly improved over the years (kudos to S&W). My 2010 9c has a much better trigger, finish and striker (new ones are silver) in comparison to my 2008 9FS.

The only problems I have personally witnessed are:
1. striker break (old black one) from one that had extreme dry firing from training classes.
2. white dot from front site came out

Great pistols, I have had no feeding or extraction problems. I recommend them.

 

[remat457]

The backstrap pin got loose all the time.

Are you talking about the takedown tool that locks the grip? You know they would have sent you a new one for free? The little nub on it does seem to get chewed up if you use it a lot. I don't use it all.

 

[Dragon88]

Pistol Training.net had a M&P9 go 62,333 rounds beginning on 22-Apr-08 and ending on 5-Dec-08, a total of 228 days, or 273.4 rounds per day.

Read about it here-

pistol-training.com Blog Archive M&P Endurance Test Ends

Your dealer is full of it. He should be selling used cars, not guns.

62,000 rounds is not a tremendous amount, especially when the end result was a cracked slide. Worn out a little sure, but actual metal failure? And S&W didn't offer to replace it?

Hickok45 had an M&P slide crack live on Youtube.

I don't have anything against M&Ps, but I'm wondering if they will have a higher percentage of slide failures than other polymer pistols over the next couple decades as people own and shoot them longer.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

I've got a M&P .45 and have had a few FTF due to bad ammo ...

I understand peoples opinions, but I just can't see how you could ever say these weapons are built like ****.

My S&W bias aside, these things are rock solid.

 

[XAVMECH]

I had an M&P 40C briefly before returning to 3rd GEN pistols. I found it to be well designed, easy to strip and insp, and a nice shooting pistol. I preferred the ergonomics to my G-19. I didn't keep it because I liked the design of the all metal 3rd GEN S&Ws better, although it's a bit of a hunt to find what you want. I also own a SIG 229 in 40 S&W and found it a more comfortable pistol to shoot in that caliber. If I were buying another compact M&P today, I would opt for the 9MM.
Frankly, I think the M&P series has out-glocked the Glock in terms of innovation. My two cents worth, anyway....