S&W M19 Classic fails in Hickock.45 demo
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And in the follow up video the replacement M19 worked fine. Nothing says an older model can't have the same problem.
Quality is job none..
I asked, there won't be a followup on whether the problem was the gun or the ammo. "It's Bud's gun". Federal, it seems, occasionally makes cases having thick rims, and if the gun is on the tight side of tolerances - there's the interference.
In any event, new guns have the lifetime of purchaser warranty and shipping is free both ways. Fedex to the factory replaced local gunsmiths as warranty servicers.
Part 2 gun worked fine. Also note that "old people" like myself have thinner skin and may be on blood thinners as well. Doesn't take much to draw blood from us.
125 grains is a great bullet weight for 357. Forbidden fruit on the old guns but it's mostly what I shoot from my new one.
In any event, new guns have the lifetime of purchaser warranty and shipping is free both ways. Fedex to the factory replaced local gunsmiths as warranty servicers.
Part 2 gun worked fine. Also note that "old people" like myself have thinner skin and may be on blood thinners as well. Doesn't take much to draw blood from us.
125 grains is a great bullet weight for 357. Forbidden fruit on the old guns but it's mostly what I shoot from my new one.
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I watched the Hickok 45 video - - - nothing "Classic" about it to me. Just a poor attempt to try and return to the real Classics of yesteryear. Not bashing - just the truth as I see it! How they have the gumption to call the new version a Classic is beyond my imagination. Again, if they wanted all the new manufacturing methods & materials, then fine, that's their choice - just DON'T call it a "Classic".
I just got a new model 19 last week. It’s a classic...made in 1968
I don't know what happened to his, but "stuff happens."
I like mine.
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And just for comparison my 19-4
I like mine.
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And just for comparison my 19-4
I have witnessed this myself. I recently had a few cases of the Federal AE 130g .38 Special that had really thick rims. They caused problems in multiple K frames and also did not work well in HKS and Safariland speedloaders.
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Strange, never had that issue with my 19-4, it must be old...
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At least Hickok45 acknowledged that something was wrong. I feel certain other testers/reviewers might have simply "deep sixed" the video and reviewed a replacement gun w/o mentioning gun #1.
From my readings here on the Forum, more than a few posters report problems with their Model 69s in .44 magnum... We've heard of the chambering problems in the Ruger 7-shot GP100. It happens: the so-called "teething troubles" of a new weapon in wartime combat can be even worse.
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From my readings here on the Forum, more than a few posters report problems with their Model 69s in .44 magnum... We've heard of the chambering problems in the Ruger 7-shot GP100. It happens: the so-called "teething troubles" of a new weapon in wartime combat can be even worse.
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I don't have a 19 Classic, but i do have the new 66 2.75". I also have my old 4" 66-2 duty gun and my 66-2 3" that was used in Detectives by my brother-in-law. I love the 66-2s, but I've got to say that the new 66 is extremely accurate and reliable. I've shot quite a few rounds through it so far and have had zero problems. I have to say I'm hesitant to shoot much .357 through the 66-2s because of the forcing cone issue. After all, barrels don't grow on trees. However, the construction and advancements in metallurgy have made me quite confidant that the new 66 will hold up to .357 just fine.
I've got to say, though, the new 66 and the Classic 19 will never replace the originals in my mind. The new guns have some advantages, but they just aren't the same.
I've got to say, though, the new 66 and the Classic 19 will never replace the originals in my mind. The new guns have some advantages, but they just aren't the same.
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Smart move!
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Can you give us a timestamp of where the fail is? IDK if I have enough free time on my lunch break to sit through the whole thing.
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I seen the video and honestly it's just once instance. The 2nd gun seemed fine. That said it's a shame it happened.
I have seen some "classic series" guns and my view is it's a modern take on a classic. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one especially if they offered a non PC version in a 3" inch ( or better yet a 2") barrel. I would be all over it.
I am not bias. I like the old and the new. They are different guns and one should expect a new gun to be different than one made 30-40 (if not longer) years ago. Smith and Wesson has always made good stuff then and now or at least that's my opinion.
I have seen some "classic series" guns and my view is it's a modern take on a classic. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one especially if they offered a non PC version in a 3" inch ( or better yet a 2") barrel. I would be all over it.
I am not bias. I like the old and the new. They are different guns and one should expect a new gun to be different than one made 30-40 (if not longer) years ago. Smith and Wesson has always made good stuff then and now or at least that's my opinion.
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20-22 minutes in.
500SNW
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Thanks!! I'm not a fan of his "Bud's Gun Shop and Federal ammunition" videos, so you saved me at least 20 minutes of boredom. Paul Harrell OTOH is very educational and another matter entirely.
It may seem counterintuitive, but why spend that much money on a new gun when you can find an old one for about the same price? I’ll take a P&R revolver any day over two new “classics” of the same model. Well...OK, I’d take the two classics, then flip them for some P&R cash!
Superior design and materials, unnecessary features like pins and recessed cylinders gone, lifetime service policy.
Buffalo Bore says:
"You'll notice that new S&W revolvers with short barrels are often shooting faster than older S&W revolvers with longer barrels. The new S&W revolvers are very good and are made with equipment that makes them more consistent and faster than the S&W revolvers of yesteryear."
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I just got a new model 19 last week. It’s a classic...made in 1968
I just got a new classic too. It's a 2.5" made in 1972. Good stuff!
Bill
