Should I buy another Sigma?

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Hey all, new to the forum, just found it yesterday and glad I did. Lots of great info here and Sigma lovers like myself. I bought a new 40VE just after last x-mas and I sure am happy with my purchase. I had been looking at the Sigma for almost a year before buying and went ahead and got one becuase at the time, the rebate was ending on 12-31-09. Obviously it was extended. I didn't buy it just because of the rebate, like I said I wanted one anyway but why not get two free mags with it as well?

Went right out and put 25 rounds through it and loved it. I did read a few reviews on it and was aware of the heavy trigger but found that it is not all that bad. It has a better trigger than my Taurus PT-111 for sure. It is heavier but not as long. Mine is smooth too, not gritty as some describe. I love how there is no safety too, just point and shoot.

Went out with it again and put 200 rounds down range but did have one jam on around the 100th round. I guess it was what is called a stove pipe. Cleared it and did the other 100. Since, I've put maybe another 250-300 rounds through it with no problems at all. I think it's a great handgun and it is now my home defense weapon that's in the bedroom. I trust it.

The .40 S&W is a great round and the Sigma is the 2nd handgun I own in .40. But, I've been thinking of getting another Sigma in 9mm. Do I need it? No. But do I want one? Heck yeah! The value of this gun to me is way more than I paid for it ($330 out the door) and to pass up another one at such a steal is hard to do. I do own two other 9mm's already (Ruger SR9 and Taurus PT-111) so I don't really need it but........ you know how it is.

Anyway, the one question I do have at this time is this:
I have heard from two different people (not people I know) that the Sigma 40ve is a more reliable gun than the Sigma 9ve. I don't think there is any truth to this at all and why would there be? But, just wondered if anyone else had heard this. The one fella who told me this was the guy behind the counter that I was buying the Sigma 40ve from. He said the 40 was a good choice and that the 9 seems to have more jamming problems. Don't know where exactly he got his info but working at a gun dealer makes you want to listen to him at least a little bit. The other who said this was just another customer (at a different store) who I struck up a conversation with. But, that's just what he a had "heard" just like me.

I think if this was something that was even close to true it would be plastered all over a forum like this one. But, just thought I'd throw it out there. Usually I'm a believer in the saying- You get what you pay for. With the Sigma you get a darn nice S&W semi-auto for just over $300 and that's a serious bargin. I think the lower price tag gives non-owners the impression that it is a cheap gun but we know that's not true.
 
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Sonic, I own a Sigma 9. I am very happy with it. Take care of your guns and they'll take care of you. I clean my gun after each trip to the range. No mechanical problems. I'd say go for it.
 
I also have a 40ve and I think this gun is great.
I added a Crimson Trace laser for S&Gs.
I find it a decent carry gun.

Buying a 9mm Sigma would be a good idea especially if you go to the range a lot since 9mm ammo is much cheaper than .40 and you'd be using basically the same frame gun.

That will let you play at the range for less coin! LOL.
 
You hit the nail on the head. The 9mm would be much cheaper to shoot. I'm sure I would enjoy it just as much as the 40 and save a few dollars per box of ammo. Although in my neck of the woods it seems like prices are creeping back up. Last year 9mm FMJ's if you could find them were sky high (over $20 a box) then all of a sudden it was available again and the price was cut in half or less. Stores around here are bumping up the price again. Not too much, like a buck or two a box but still.

Wal-mart was about the only place where the prices didn't change much during the drought. The gun stores were absolutely ripping people off. $19.99 for Blazer aluminum 115 grn FMJ's. I didn't buy any. Wal-mart had 100 round packs of Win for $20.99 (when it was in) and Federal for $9.47 for 50, where would you buy it?
 
As much as I hate a .40 caliber, both the .40 and 9mm work the same. Just clean it and lube it and it should out last you :eek:
 
I have the 40VE, it works great, nice pistol, I don't imagine the 9VE is any different as far as quality or performance.
 
Hummm, I own a Sigma 40ve as well as a Taurus pt-111 mil pro, same as you. I do like the Sigma. I don't necessarily agree that the pt111 trigger is inferior to the Sigma's. Both of these guns are good for self defense, yet I carry a Glock 27 for sd. For me one Sigma is enough. I have even thought recently about trading in the pt-111 and the Sigma for a FN 9mm gun ...but that's just me.
 
Never was a fan of the sigma's my friend has one i heard that the firing pin breaks if you were to dry fire it. I was looking at the new SD9 its pretty much a improved sigma kind of based off the m&p series which i love :D

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Firing pin breaks when you dry fire??? You heard???:eek: Well, you heard WRONG! Doesn't do any harm at all when you dry fire the Sigma. Infact, it helps smooth out the trigger. :D
 
Firing pin breaks when you dry fire??? You heard???:eek: Well, you heard WRONG! Doesn't do any harm at all when you dry fire the Sigma. Infact, it helps smooth out the trigger. :D

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I have well over 8000 rounds through my Sigma and have dry fired it maybe 6-7 times more than I have live fired it and nothing as broke..... yet :D
 
Hummm, I own a Sigma 40ve as well as a Taurus pt-111 mil pro, same as you. I do like the Sigma. I don't necessarily agree that the pt111 trigger is inferior to the Sigma's. Both of these guns are good for self defense, yet I carry a Glock 27 for sd. For me one Sigma is enough. I have even thought recently about trading in the pt-111 and the Sigma for a FN 9mm gun ...but that's just me.

If your PT-111 is a "PRO" model it is different than my PT-111. Mine is just a Millennium, not the pro. It is a true DAO trigger. Yours is probably DA/SA. I bought it in early '09 and it was made in 2008. I thought it was strange that a "copy" of the 1rst generation millennium was available and still being produced so long after the "PRO" came out. I think alot of people don't know about this model. It has a looonng trigger pull.
 
I have heard from two different people (not people I know) that the Sigma 40ve is a more reliable gun than the Sigma 9ve.
FACT: no difference


Never was a fan of the sigma's my friend has one i heard that the firing pin breaks if you were to dry fire it. I was looking at the new SD9 its pretty much a improved sigma kind of based off the m&p series
FACT: SD firing pin is identical to Sigma, not M&P.

I'm convinced "some guy" is the name of the dumbest tool in the country. Someone is always hearing what "Some Guy" thinks and believing it.

Got a call from a new IDPA shooter that "heard" shooting his Browning HP in IDPA would ruin the adjustable sights, and why hadn't I warned him?
I said, "OK, I'll warn you that the "Some Guy" that told you that is ignorant!"
 
OKFC05, well said.

I do my best to speak from experience, not hearsay. :D

LOL I agree with what you said about "some guy" Too funny.
 
Anyway, the one question I do have at this time is this:
I have heard from two different people (not people I know) that the Sigma 40ve is a more reliable gun than the Sigma 9ve. I don't think there is any truth to this at all and why would there be?

The only thing that I can think of is that "some guy" doesn't have a firm enough grip. I don't have any experience with limp wristing, but it would make sense that someone could have jams with a 9mm due to limp wristing and the .40s&w would be fine due to the higher energy of the round.
 
I owned a Sigma 9mm for several years but sold it. I have never missed it. The trigger pull was looooong and it was not reliable enough for personal defense. It would fail every 40-50 rounds. I now have a Glock 19. It has never failed to send a round down range.
 
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Will Carry,

Did you send it into S&W to diagnose the problem? Take advantage of the lifetime warranty. :D

My SW9VE has proven to be accurate and reliable. I don't have any complaints. :cool:
 
I kind of want the SD only if it came in a compact. I think it would make a killing in the gun market with more and more people getting their CCWs.
 
I forgot to mention that I have yet to have a single malfunction. I have complete confidence in my SW9VE. Granted, I have only a couple of hundred of rounds through it.

There are many here that have thousands of rounds through their Sigmas without any problems.
 
9mm Sigma is a bargain

Academy always puts the 9mm Sigma on sale for $299, then send in the $50 rebate and it's $249 or elect to get the 2 free magazines. It came with 2 mags, so I got the $50 bucks back. That is less than half the price of a Glock. The stores are finally slashing ammo prices and they are discounting 9mm's. My friend just added a 9mm to his collection because the 40's were costing him too much money. I did perform the trigger polishing mod myself and it's really smooth now. I also lightly polished the barrel and sides of the slide to add a little bit of class.

Owner of Sigma 9mm and 457 45acp
 
I forgot to mention that I have yet to have a single malfunction. I have complete confidence in my SW9VE. Granted, I have only a couple of hundred of rounds through it.

There are many here that have thousands of rounds through their Sigmas without any problems.

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I bought my 40ve in early September & I have put no less than 2500 rounds through it...no malfunctions to date!

This is a rock solid gun, it's like a Hyundai, people said they sucked too. They told be "go buy a Honda or Toyoya". 7 years later, still no problems with it...My friends, have had their share or "dealer repairs"

I have the same confidence in my Sigma as I have in My Model 19!
 
I forgot to mention that I have yet to have a single malfunction. I have complete confidence in my SW9VE. Granted, I have only a couple of hundred of rounds through it.

There are many here that have thousands of rounds through their Sigmas without any problems.

I have 1000 rounds through my SW9VE. Accurate and reliable. If I don't get to the range this weekend, next weekend for sure!
 
How can you dry-fire it so much? Pulling the slide back to cock it again wears me out quick. I like practicing that way, tho.
 
Yup, the rumor mill gets started up pretty easily. "Some guy" has a bad experience with a paticular product and deems it junk. He then tell his friends, family, coworkers, whoever he thinks should know. These people trust the advice of "some guy" because they know him. Why would he steer them wrong? In turn all those people spread the word for that product off of some guy's one bad experience and soon 100 people that don't even know "some guy" are now experts on that particular product.

This is exactly how we get most of our info for everything. Everyone is also guilty of starting the rumors, good or bad. I think The Sigma is a great low priced handgun and that's what I tell people that do not own one. I've had good experiences with it. Maybe a friend of mine tells others what I've said and down the road somebody purchases one on my one good review that has spread to people I don't even know. I'm now "some guy".

Before you've actually owned something you always try to research it and read reviews. I do anyway. Any gun I buy is always looked up on the internet 1000 times before I decide to buy or not. I talk to people I know and trust but, we all know most advice is based on what somebody heard from "some guy". Kinda hard to avoid.

It's great if you can find someone that actually uses the product you are looking to buy and maybe you can try it out first. Make your own opinion but that's not often the case.
 
Sonic, well stated.

Don't forget that people tend to be more vocal when they are critical of something. There are those that sing the praises of a good product or experience.

I know that I personally become a lot more informed of a product when I have a problem with it. This is why I get the feeling that a few bad products gives an entire product line a bad reputation. There can be one million good components, but the 5 people with bad components are the people that tend to be heard.
 
I'm also thinking of buying a Sigma to take advantage of the rebate and to add an automatic to the .38 revolvers the wife and I own. Besides the 9mm being cheaper to fire, what are the other pros and cons of the 9mm and the .40? This will be mostly a range gun but would also serve as a better home defense weapon than our J frames.
 
Not any real pros or cons between the two and you already know that the 9mm will be cheaper to use. Maybe that is a pro for the 9. If you're going to be at the range alot you can certainly save money with it over the .40. I have a .40 and ammo is usually around $14-$15 a box for target ammo. It's not cheap to put 5-10 mags through it at the range and doesn't take too long either. I can get a box of 9mm target ammo for around $10 a box, alot of savings really.

But, if you're just gonna plink every now and then and the gun is mainly for home defense either one is still fine. Although there is the age old argument over which caliber is a better man stopper. In that case the .40 is my opinion. I keep my Sigma in the bedroom just in case but wouldn't hesitate to use a 9mm either. Both great guns and will cost the same out the door, the 9 is cheaper to feed though.
 
I've dry-fired my S&W9VE until my hands got sore. We had it out at the range again yesterday and learned that Monarch and Remington ammos are reliable.

I cleaned it up and gave to my son-in-law for his motor-home. I miss it already.

What am I going to do?
 
After I went through all the trouble of breaking in and getting my SW9VE to be sweet and reliable, my son-in-law 'confiscated' it for his motor-home. :eek:

Oh, dear, oh, dear, what shall I do? ;)
 
I have owned a SW40VE for years, and have never had a problem with it. I don't keep track of rounds fired, but I have to have fired at least a 1000. My sons, my wife, a lot of my friends and their wives have shot it, it has never jammed.

Andy
 
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