Who carries a Smith on duty besides me? Let's see it.

[bulletproof-791]

1st duty weapon

2nd duty weapon

3rd

and what i carry now

 

[Leiden]

Although I carry three different guns for four different seasons; 5906TSW for summer, 4046TSW in the fall and spring and a 4583TSW in the winter, I am well armed besides those three. I carry a Ruger SP101 in .357 on my ankle and when I'm wearing a jacket I carry a 4053TSW in a shoulder holster. That doesn't include my RRA M4 and my Remington 1187 Police. When I worked for the County I was issued a glock but it blew up in my face and broke 17 out of the 27bones in my hand. You are correct in that todays policing it seems everyone wants to be lazy and do things the easy way especially when it comes to firearms. I'm thankful in that my Chief lets us carry what we want. And let me guess, the majority of the other officers in your department carry glocks with, lets say, SIG and HK running a close second and third?

Actually, I think we're running close to 75% Glock, and the second most common pistol is a Colt/Kimber/Springfield 1911. There are very few SIGs and a few HKs around. I'm the armorer for Colt, SIG, HK, Beretta and Glock, and by far Glock 31s are the most popular. We authorized revolvers and there are a few of those around too.

 

[Leiden]

Leiden,

What an excellent set up you have. Did you install the spurred hammer on the 4516?


Cat

Yes, I put a spurred hammer on the 4516-1 and it's the perfect combination. I think of it as a "mini-4506" and wouldn't trade it for anything. I'd recommend adding the spurred hammer if for no other reason than it just plain looks right. I'll take a better photo of it tomorrow and send you one.

 

[st regis]

My daily (nightly) toter

637 (look ma, no lock) ankle gun

 

[mrmike7189]

If it were my choice I would. VA requires it's Federal Police to carry the Beretta 9mm. Soon changing to a Sig 9mm.

nothing bad about a sig 9mm.....or the beretta....too bad s&w didn't keep making the TSW series

 

[Leiden]

I need to get a better camera, but here's my favorite "carry pistol" for work - a 4516-1 with a spurred hammer. I carry it in a SIG P229 holster and can even use my duty 4506 magazines for reloads. I love the 4516-1 and it just feels right.....it's not plastic and just plain catches your attention at night when it's pointed at the bad guy. I think if it as a mini-4506. I just wish it came in 10mm.

 

[Catshooter]

Very cool weapon Leiden. I've owned three 4516's over the years and they're great, underrated guns. I've really thought about buying a 10mm barrel blank and making a barrel for the -16. Never have done it though.

This is what I carry every day:

In my world it's the only thing better than the -16. Hard to find though, and not cheap. Man, does it shoot.


Cat


Cat

 

[4506517]

Unfortunately I carry a "full" size M&P 45. My agency has had nothing but issues with it. We were previously issued the 4566 which I wish we would go back to.

 

[cdlinstr]

s&w carry

4043 light and never missed a beat at the range

 

[4864]

My 4563TSW. Use this most of the time.

I also am qualified to carry my 4516-1.

 

[Win75]

I carried a 659 while I was Deputy Sheriff. I don't have a pic since I traded it for a tranmission for a 67 Chevelle SS several years ago.

 

[totin'45]

Retired now, but I didn't carry anything BUT Smiths my entire LE career (except I did carry a Colt, actually a Springfield, when I was an MP in the early '70's). They included in order:

Model 19, Model 29, Model 66, Model 60 (court gun), Models 469, 645, 4516, 4566, and currently Model CS45. I also carried a short barreled S&W Model 3000 12 gauge shotgun which functioned identical to a Remington Model 870.

All were great firearms, none ever let me down.

 

[ochretoe]

My first duty weapon was 681. 7 years later we went to the Sigma .40 cal and 10 years later we went to a Glock 23. Thats what I have now. The 681 was the best shooter with the Glock being a distant third. I still carry the Sigma off duty and the 681 is my hog gun and hopefully deer gun next year.

 

[LTMEMORY]

Wow -- joined the police department in 1970, and my first Duty weapon was a S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum. I carried it for years, until I broke down and bought the Model 66 (Combat Magnum in Stainless Steel). I carried a Chief Special for plainclothes assignments. One day I got a "wild hair" and bought a Colt Python -- shot it one time, and sold it to another officer on my platoon -- I didnt like it -- it just didnt feel right to me. I took the money from the Python and bought a Bodyguard to carry off duty, along with a Mauser HSC in 9mm kurz. I used those two off duty guns for off duty carry until I retired.

When semi-autos were approved, I bought a S&W model 59 and carried it for a short time, sold it and bought two (2) S&W Sigma 40v's. One, I carried constantly -- the other was identical to the first -- and I kept it in the safe except when the "constant carry" Sigma was in the "shop" for a new sight, or adjustment, or any number of little "piddly" things that are needed over time.

I carried the two Sigmas until I retired, never having one single bit of trouble with either of them. I found out with experience that spending a fortune on a duty weapon was fine if you wanted to watch a lot of money slowly deteriorate with on duty carry. The Sigmas were relatively inexpensive, but were more than adequate for on duty carry, with all the backing of Smith and Wesson. For the money they were (and in MY opinion still are) -- the best deal on the market -- and best deal for DUTY SERVICE if you are required to purchase your own service weapon.

All in all, they were the very best weapon I could have chosen, and if I had to choose again --- I would go with Sigma's with no hesitation.

LTMEMORY

 

[tgardner]

Wow -- joined the police department in 1970, and my first Duty weapon was a S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum. I carried it for years, until I broke down and bought the Model 66 (Combat Magnum in Stainless Steel). I carried a Chief Special for plainclothes assignments. One day I got a "wild hair" and bought a Colt Python -- shot it one time, and sold it to another officer on my platoon -- I didnt like it -- it just didnt feel right to me. I took the money from the Python and bought a Bodyguard to carry off duty, along with a Mauser HSC in 9mm kurz. I used those two off duty guns for off duty carry until I retired.

When semi-autos were approved, I bought a S&W model 59 and carried it for a short time, sold it and bought two (2) S&W Sigma 40v's. One, I carried constantly -- the other was identical to the first -- and I kept it in the safe except when the "constant carry" Sigma was in the "shop" for a new sight, or adjustment, or any number of little "piddly" things that are needed over time.

I carried the two Sigmas until I retired, never having one single bit of trouble with either of them. I found out with experience that spending a fortune on a duty weapon was fine if you wanted to watch a lot of money slowly deteriorate with on duty carry. The Sigmas were relatively inexpensive, but were more than adequate for on duty carry, with all the backing of Smith and Wesson. For the money they were (and in MY opinion still are) -- the best deal on the market -- and best deal for DUTY SERVICE if you are required to purchase your own service weapon.

All in all, they were the very best weapon I could have chosen, and if I had to choose again --- I would go with Sigma's with no hesitation.

LTMEMORY

Your simple and honest review and comments are worth more than 100 Sigma biggots who never carried or relied on one to defend themselves and others.

 

[sniper47]

Your simple and honest review and comments are worth more than 100 Sigma biggots who never carried or relied on one to defend themselves and others.

Here-here. I agree.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Started this line of work in 2006.... Started off with a Gen 2 GLOCK 17 in the academy and FTO, jumped to a Gen 3 GLOCK 22 and carried a S&W 642 (I removed the cursed lock) as a BUG. Left that agency and went to another and carried the GLOCK 37 in .45 GAP. Left them and went back to my first agency and I'm carrying a GLOCK 22 again....

I'm a 2nd Gen Cop.... my father has been carrying one model of a S&W revolver or another since 1975 and he switched to GLOCK in the early 1980s. He brought GLOCK down to South Florida and has never looked back. He's still a S&W fan as am I. Even though both of use currently carry GLOCKs (the old man carries a GLOCK 35), we both carry S&W 642s as BUGs.

 

[1tinindian]

I bought my own for duty back when these were the new offering from S&W.
Since been sold,
4046.

 

[allabtslfdef]

One of my partners carries a Sigma 40 and a 686 as duty weapons. He swears by them. He is good with them too. I think he has been on duty for about 30 years now and still has his second hand 686 holster that he got a long time back. Peopls always comment about the old man with the revolver. Then he out shoots them and they shut up.

Jason

 

[Miami_JBT]

One of my partners carries a Sigma 40 and a 686 as duty weapons. He swears by them. He is good with them too. I think he has been on duty for about 30 years now and still has his second hand 686 holster that he got a long time back. Peopls always comment about the old man with the revolver. Then he out shoots them and they shut up.

Jason

Reminds me of quals when the old man and I shoot. Everyone always looks at my Father like something that should belong in a museum display. All the young bucks (I'm part of that group ) that are SWAT or prior ground pounders think that they can out shoot him. When the command to fire is heard. He has his GLOCK 35 out of his holster and rounds sent down range accurately faster then just about everyone on the range. He's four to five rounds into the shooting relay while some folks are still breaking leather.

I'm proud to come from that stock and I'm proud that I'm starting to beat the old man in drawn time. Though I don't believe my skill has anything to do with that. I think his old age does. Though when it comes to the physical sparring and DT stuff.... he has me beat. It's hard for a 5'4" 145lbs guy to take down a 6'2" 260lbs guy that happens to be a black belt in Shotokan. I just get thrown around like a rag doll for the crowd's amusement.