The now documented fact that the Secret Service didn't bother to pick up the radios the locals had ready for them says it all.
New information about Trump assassination attempt
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Trump's team was shorted numerous agents. One of the replacements could not holster her weapon properly. This was the first time that SS counter snipers were on his detail. No drones. "Yesterday's technology tomorrow" was the motto. There is more to this than incompetence.
Read some information released by the investigating committee. Apparently, some agents from the Pittsburgh office got drafted to work the rally. Most unlikely to have been trained for the task, probably the source of the "What do we do?" comment recorded.
A bucket truck or the like would have been a really poor location for a precision shot.
A bucket truck or the like would have been a really poor location for a precision shot.
It seems odd that the press can tell you everything there is to know about a suspect 10 seconds after apprehension in most cases, however in this case and the Las Vegas concert event they just can't really seem to pin down many specifics other than a small donation to one political party or the number of guns a suspect owns.
It is disappointing that congressional inquiry to get the information pried loose one crumb at a time is what it takes.
It is disappointing that congressional inquiry to get the information pried loose one crumb at a time is what it takes.
The desired effect is that everyone will lose interest before enough “crumbs” are assembled, and NOTHING appropriate and constructive will ever be done.
In Washington DC, there seemingly are no consequences for anything that runs the gamut from poor judgment to abject failure. (That said, for now at least, I’m not foolish enough to believe I’d be better off elsewhere.)
In Washington DC, there seemingly are no consequences for anything that runs the gamut from poor judgment to abject failure. (That said, for now at least, I’m not foolish enough to believe I’d be better off elsewhere.)
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I find it odd that there were several conspiracy theories and other comments against the conspiracy theories posted yesterday that were deleted.
Now the same type of comments are posted again and still there.
I am starting to wonder how deep this all goes.
Now the same type of comments are posted again and still there.
I am starting to wonder how deep this all goes.
kozmic
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I'm disgusted at the entire episode. The epic failure before and at the rally. The finger pointing afterwards. The drips of scripted, sanitized information since. The lack of forthcoming testimony at the Congressional hearings. Most disturbing, however, is the fact that we will never get a truthful, complete accounting of what happened and who's to blame.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this wreaks of a larger plot than we've been led to believe.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this wreaks of a larger plot than we've been led to believe.
Super Trucker
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I have family members in law enforcement in the metro Detroit area. They have said for years, that anything involving the SS is difficult because there is no communication with them.
That seems to be part of the problem with this situation.
That seems to be part of the problem with this situation.
LVSteve
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It's no surprise to me. Once they have a name the media are off to the computer and start rooting around all the personal info and 'verification' websites. There are a whole slew of them, and it is remarkable what you can dig up even without a subscription because of the poor way the sites are run. The media are subscribed to all of them, just like social media. It then becomes a matter of joining the dots.
Of all thee comments posted this one referring to consequences is surely the most telling. No one really suffered or suffers the consequences. The Branch Davidians....did not have to happen...people were slaughtered for no real reason...and people were promoted.. The Weaver thing...shooting an unarmed woman with a baby...and get promoted...This Trump thing just SEEMS ti be sheer incompetance.. In the videos it was plain that someone had their eyes and rifle sights on the guy with a gun...prior to him getting 7 or 9 shots off. Trump dropped down before the SS people even took the initiative to cover him. ...None of this seems to matter though... No one is really getting the blame. A large amount of bureaucratic BS but no real blame has been assigned (and probably won't). And Biku is right...If you really NEED to take someone out...you just find someone who has no regard for their own life(Jack Ruby). or thinks their life is worth the result of losing it(Anwar Sadat). There needs to be REAL blame attached to the Trump shooting. If incompetence they need to go...if a conspiracy...Punishment for the crime
Folks the .gov that's investigating of itself for wrong doing, is that same .gov that lies about everything to everybody - especially to us, the public
The propaganda arm of the .gov, the mockingbird news media, isn't going to go against the .gov approved narrative by doing any real investigating.
Let's go with incompetence which what some want believe. Let's say that's true. The agency that's tasked with protection, had one job to do, do everything necessary to protect the person they're assigned to protect. But they, everyone from top to bottom, are too incompetent to do the one job they had. What does that say about the people running that agency in particular and the government, in general and that no one is held accountable for their "incompetence"?
What does it say that Numb-Nuts was more capable of doing his job, (attempting to whack someone, even got a head shot) than the premier government agency assigned to the protection detail? We'll ignore that Numb-nuts was not hiding but doing this in full view of EVERYBODY!
But, hey, let's ignore the .gov incompetence and corruption as there's nothing to see here.
The propaganda arm of the .gov, the mockingbird news media, isn't going to go against the .gov approved narrative by doing any real investigating.
Let's go with incompetence which what some want believe. Let's say that's true. The agency that's tasked with protection, had one job to do, do everything necessary to protect the person they're assigned to protect. But they, everyone from top to bottom, are too incompetent to do the one job they had. What does that say about the people running that agency in particular and the government, in general and that no one is held accountable for their "incompetence"?
What does it say that Numb-Nuts was more capable of doing his job, (attempting to whack someone, even got a head shot) than the premier government agency assigned to the protection detail? We'll ignore that Numb-nuts was not hiding but doing this in full view of EVERYBODY!
But, hey, let's ignore the .gov incompetence and corruption as there's nothing to see here.
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DWalt
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From my personal experience in performing genealogy research I can verify that. I have found considerable information about living (and deceased) relatives without subscribing to any of the numerous internet gumshoe websites. And I even discovered some information from long ago about myself that I had completely forgotten. If there has ever been anything written anywhere about someone, rest assured it is still available someplace on the internet. Surprising what can be found just by looking on Facebook. People can write some amazingly frank details about themselves there.
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Gentlemen, a lot of what we're seeing now reminds me of an old thing about the 5 stages of a project. There's several versions, I always thought the German one was best, unfortunately, I didn't copy it.
Anyhow, we're now in the third stage: Search for the guilty. Most likely to be followed by punishment of the innocent and then honors for those not involved. Unfortunately, the ones most responsible are likely too far up the hierarchy to reach.
In line with that last sentiment, novelist John Sanford mentioned an outstanding snide comment in one of his novels: "There are two types of bees. Worker bees who take care of the work and management bees who take care of themselves." I'll add "and each other".
Anyhow, we're now in the third stage: Search for the guilty. Most likely to be followed by punishment of the innocent and then honors for those not involved. Unfortunately, the ones most responsible are likely too far up the hierarchy to reach.
In line with that last sentiment, novelist John Sanford mentioned an outstanding snide comment in one of his novels: "There are two types of bees. Worker bees who take care of the work and management bees who take care of themselves." I'll add "and each other".
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LVSteve
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I find it odd that there were several conspiracy theories and other comments against the conspiracy theories posted yesterday that were deleted.
Now the same type of comments are posted again and still there.
I am starting to wonder how deep this all goes.
In America, most place great store in the ability of the individual to make their own decisions. However, when an individual makes a decision to commit a heinous act, many say it must be a conspiracy. It is one of the great contradictions of our society.
In the case of the Trump shooting, we can reconcile this quite simply.
1) The individual shooter made a decision to try and assassinate Trump. Thanks to blind luck and the incompetence of others, he nearly did it. Still, that is an individual act, not a conspiracy.
2) A conspiracy to cover a bunch of undeserving butts followed after the shooting stopped.
Voila, we have cut the American version of the Gordian knot.
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UncleEd
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Trump's immediate protective team seems to have fallen down on the job. Pure and simple. No more, no less.
He was holding outdoor rallies such as in Butler, Pa., nearly every week.
The team or teams fell into routines that were not sound, possibly due to fatigue.
High ranking government officials and politicians that are authorized SS protection put a strain on services. However the day of protectees is like and long , the protectors days are longer.
Having said all of the above, let's not forget that the SS has had a number of scandals including during the Obama years. If you care check for reports of drunkenness, hiring prostitutes, screwing up evidence and more.
He was holding outdoor rallies such as in Butler, Pa., nearly every week.
The team or teams fell into routines that were not sound, possibly due to fatigue.
High ranking government officials and politicians that are authorized SS protection put a strain on services. However the day of protectees is like and long , the protectors days are longer.
Having said all of the above, let's not forget that the SS has had a number of scandals including during the Obama years. If you care check for reports of drunkenness, hiring prostitutes, screwing up evidence and more.
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The “full and thorough investigation” should be a doozy.
Receptionist - Hello, how may I direct your call?
Me - Please get George on the line...FAST!
Receptionist - Yes sir, please hold.
Wait on hold listening to music
George - Hello, this is George.
Me - George, sell every share of my ABC stock and buy all the Reynolds Wrap stock that you can find...ASAP!
George - Will do...your one smart investor!
Me - Please get George on the line...FAST!
Receptionist - Yes sir, please hold.
Wait on hold listening to music
George - Hello, this is George.
Me - George, sell every share of my ABC stock and buy all the Reynolds Wrap stock that you can find...ASAP!
George - Will do...your one smart investor!
I was on a Deep State Zoom call Thursday when there was discussion on this very thing. The One World Order representative finally came to an agreement with both the Tri-Lateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group that the next attempt would involve a 'fall' down a Russian marble staircase.
LVSteve
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Where was my invite?
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