kbm6893
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So you're saying that the ABSENCE of an instructor would have been a good thing? professional drivers get into accidents too. Are they unqualified to drive that race car now?
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So you're saying that the ABSENCE of an instructor would have been a good thing? professional drivers get into accidents too. Are they unqualified to drive that race car now?
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Now we're getting somewhere!
The notion that restrictions and mandates are required to prevent something that isn't happening has been the flawed thinking through this entire thread.
There is no evidence that states not requiring mandatory training are suffering because of it over others that do. You can't prove a need for something that does not exist.
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You need proof for common sense? There's proof that cigarettes cause cancer. Some people smoke until they're 100 and never get it. I guess the proof that cigarettes cause cancer must be incorrect? Hey, who here would call the cops if they had an ND but DIDN'T hit somebody? I wouldn't! So those ND's aren't even a matter of record. Doesn't mean they didn't happen.
There was a thread on here not long ago about ND's. LOT'S of us here had them.
Your right to own a gun doesn't trump your neighbor's right to live if you screw up. So whatever reasonable steps that need to be taken to REDUCE that possibility should be taken. And MANY people do take those steps. MANY do NOT. I taught my wife to shoot. I hold no "certification", that is probably a joke to get anyway. I am confident she is comptent. But if the state required her to show a level of proficiency, I'd happily drive her there to shoot some targets. Take her to lunch afterward.
Some people are so hardwired to protest ANYTHING they are "told to do". Good of the many, be damned, right? And don't start with the whole "that's how it starts, man". Nobody is taking your guns away. Except maybe in NY where the staunch gun advocate Ladder13 lives. Guess his job and his pension are more important to him than the amount of rounds in his magazine (and I totally disagree with the Safe Act, by the way).
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You never resist a personal attack do you? People at Walmart, the handicapped, those that disagree.
I'll just put you on ignore like someone else mentioned, you're not worth my time.
DONE, I feel so much better now.
I'll just put you on ignore like someone else mentioned, you're not worth my time.
DONE, I feel so much better now.
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kbm6893
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You never resist a personal attack do you? People at Walmart, the handicapped, those that disagree.
I'll just put you on ignore like someone else mentioned, you're not worth my time.
DONE, I feel so much better now.
Wasn't a personal attack. Sorry you took it that way. Just trying to point out that even the most ardent gun advocates comply with gun laws.
Have a nice day.
Jack Wagon
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Had lunch today with a Texas Supreme Court judge. He said that OC in Texas will pass. And he is all for it. He also said campus carry may not pass.
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Pretending something exists that does not exist isn't common sense, it's fantasy.
I've heard anti-gun restrictions and mandate fantasy masquerading as common sense for as long as I can remember.
It's common sense that banning guns reduces crime and murder, right?Some actually still cling to this common sense fantasy after it has proven false decade after decade.
It's common sense that if you allow millions more people to carry guns (as Shall Issue swept across America) that blood will be running in the streets and road rage shootings will be common place. How'd those common sense fantasies turn out?
Pretending that states which do not require mandatory training are suffering over those that do may be common sense to you, but that doesn't make it any less of a fantasy.
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Good to hear!! As mentioned many times before, I may not ever carry openly, but it's great to know that I could... Should I CHOOSE To.
[Edit] For those who may not actually read the Bills we're discussing
... This Bill is NOT about Open Campus Carry... Only for Concealed Campus Carry.Hmm... I wonder if all the Responsible 21-24y/o CC permit holders got together (especially the 'Pre-Law' students), if they could claim 'Age Discrimination'
Of course... This also negatively effects older 'more responsible' folk who are going BACK to College, to finish degrees, get Advanced degrees, or simply attend 'Adult Ed' classes, etc.
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Common sense gun control....I've heard THAT before. 
Oh wait, the picture is getting more clear.
Oh wait, the picture is getting more clear.kbm6893
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Common sense gun control....I've heard THAT before.
I thought you were gonna ignore me?
But since you didn't, can I assume that you believe that a person should be able to mount a .50 cal onto the car or string claymore's around their property?
Cause since you can't, gun control already exists. And not trying to insult you, but you chose to live and make your career in one of the most restrictive states. I find that strange.
Have a nice day. I'm loading up my 17 round magazines for my trip to the range on Monday. Hopefully "idiot free"!
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Common sense gun control....I've heard THAT before.
Sounds eerily similar to the mantra of Moms Demand Action.
Texas is getting OC, that's all that matters, let the anti's stew in their pain and agony.
Wasn't this thread about TX and OC in the first place, before the smoke and mirrors?
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Here in Missouri a bill quietly passed a few months ago, part of that bill allows CCW holders to carry on campus. At least that is how I read it, and my college age daughter, who just took her CCW class confirmed it. There has been nothing reported about illegal CCW carrying on campus.
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Yes, I read that thread.
It's generally a list if inattention, distraction, brainfarts and knowing better but didn't do it issues (discipline). And that's what I have been saying all along.
Tell us the details about your last ND. Was it the result of being an untrained "idiot" who didn't know any better that madatory training would have necessarily prevented, or was it more along the lines of what I listed above?
elm_creek_smith
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Cal .50 machine guns are crew-served weapons, and, arguably, not individual "arms." Claymore mines are ordnance and not "arms."
If one wants to mount a .50 Cal rifle on his car, I don't have a problem with that.
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keith44spl
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Well Boys,
Riddle me this...I yur gat is cover'd with a flap out where's the delicate folks tread.
Would it be more palatable and easier on their sensibilities, I ask ya....
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Riddle me this...I yur gat is cover'd with a flap out where's the delicate folks tread.
Would it be more palatable and easier on their sensibilities, I ask ya....
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Just think, Keith44spl... With a rig like that, you could walk into someplace and say those Age Old Words...
Wait for it...
“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”
Wait for it...
“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”
DevilDog72
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If the Texas legislator would add a Open Carry fee (tax) to the bill....
She fly through at the speed of light and the Govenor's signature....why the ink wouldn't even be dry
before they started collecting application fee and fighting over who would be spending the newly found revenue.
Although, it probably won't be the cash cow that the CHLs has been.
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bite your tongue sir....have had enough of the tax man...sssshhhhh
DevilDog72
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yes
When ya come to Texas, look me up.... you are invited to my home and you may openly carry your sidearm at my place. Texans are allowed to open carry on their private property and the law reads " recklessly" of which must be proven. I hope you like brisket.
When ya come to Texas, look me up.... you are invited to my home and you may openly carry your sidearm at my place. Texans are allowed to open carry on their private property and the law reads " recklessly" of which must be proven. I hope you like brisket.
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